Discussing some hands of this event with my friend Ilai Baniri (ISR), we decided to consult some hands with friends. I for my side and he for his, combining experience with youth, and the results are as follows.
Pass. I much prefer the first double to be general strength with two cards in opener’s suit. As that is not the agreement here and I have shown my suits in front of partner, he knows more about my had than I do about his. 3need not have shown much of a fit and the penalty could be significant.
David Bakhshi (ENG) WIM: Pass
Pass. It is tempting to bid 4, but I think partner should already be expecting me to have at least 11 cards in my two suits and can also see that we are Vul vs NV, so should not be doubling 4without a strong feeling that we should be defending.
Krzysztof Martens (MON) WGM: Pass
Pass. No Problem.
Brian Senior (ENG) WM: 4
4. Partner first doubled to show values then made a penalty double, I suppose. I would need more than just a five-five hand to over-rule him, so by bidding 4.
I am showing at least 6-5. There is no safety atthe five level if partner’s values really are defensive, but it is taking a sound principle (trust partner’s penalty doubles) a bit too far to defend when holding such an extreme hand.If there is a slam he may be able to go on, knowing of my great shape, but I am not overly confident of that.
David Birman (ISR) WIM 4
Ida Grönkvist (SWE) WIM 4
4. I don’t really feel like defending with this hand no matter what partner’s opinion is.
Gavin Wolpert (USA) WIM Pass
Pass. 3.is the issue with the hand.
You have no idea what to bid because you’ve misrepresented your hand. I have no clue what to do over 4. But would probably pass and take my medicine
Maybe hearts is best. Partner obviously has a really good hand Your hand is useless to partner and partner’s hand useless to you In hearts I could lose 3 hearts and nothing else.
Not like partner will believe me if I bid 4anyways.
I already didn’t pass 2X which looks like a pretty good contract to me
Adam Stokka (Swe) 4
Liam Milne (AUS) WIM: Pass
The question is – do we have enough extra shape and strength to justify pulling partner’s penalty double?
And how much do we trust LHO and partner?
For me, a vulnerable 4bid in a possible misfit auction (when partner might have been about to double) already suggested a shapely hand.
Although 4looks likely to make, we may find all the hearts and clubs stacked against us on our right, and partner’s spades and diamonds over LHO.
Anyway, passing feels brave, but that’s what I’ll do. Hoping for a good penalty against 4-1.
4 In standard agreements, following 2 suited overcall, pass followed by double is pure penalty.
With that in mind, and also in light of LHO’s voluntary bid, we may expect some working values with partner. Our previous massive underbid muddied the water, but we do not have just enough to shoot out slam.